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Rose's avatar

im interested. im assuming live is the way? will see how timing lines up with the bottom of the planet down here. thanks👍

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

Live and recorded, just like i do now with the monthly lecture here on substack

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it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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christopher collins's avatar

sounds groovy - im in!

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it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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Chelsea Ochs's avatar

I'm interested. simple and inexpensive possibilities that may perhaps be messy text: group email threads, editable group doc with prompts or session dates for comments, a piece of paper that we somehow mail back and forth......... :/

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

Lol, I wouldn’t be able to stand such mess

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G. Weaver's avatar

I use payhip for products (not interactive community space) and really appreciate their lower fees. I also use GoCardless for services/groups which is an ACH payment processor—so people can’t use credit cards, but the fees are sooooooo low compared to anywhere else.

I used Patreon for years and still wince when I think about the fees they took from me. It really adds up. For a time it felt worth it, but now I’d use discord for a community space and take reoccurring payments through Payhip and/or GoCardless. Tedious to be spread out, but for relatively low-income facilitators… can really make a difference!

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

some good ideas! but discord is a hell realm to navigate... would still have the problem of how to host and organize a course logically, of which telegram/discord/etc cannot do. and the obvious issue, managing who has access each and every month. that admin work is brutal on the soul. patreon handles that automatically -- you unsubscribe, you lose access.

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G. Weaver's avatar

Great point about the struggle of managing access. Can be easier for smaller/more intimate groups but definitely not worth it for an ongoing or bigger course. It sounds like Patreon makes the most sense for you! I do suggest looking into GoCardless for larger payments or if you do any 1-on-1 work.

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

Yes it is an interesting option

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it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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Alex's avatar

not sure about platform but definitely would be interested in attending- I do find Patreon to be a good platform though, another creator uses it for a very interactive book club and its one of the better experiences I've had with a digital community platform

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

i'd like to hear more about what you like about how they use it if u want to share... also their name so maybe i can do the research

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Alex's avatar

cj the x on youtube

Basically, the reading is divided into sections, so for example ch 1-5 was the first segment. then cj posted their own notes and musing about chapters 1-5 on the page, and then everyone could comment on the post. Potentially chaotic and there’s a lot of people in this Patreon so its not nearly as intimate of a conversation, but it was very simple to talk to people, reply to comments, read etc. and then at the end of the book, cj hosted a townhall live to talk about the book on zoom. Then several people create an online zine about the book for the book club! its really quite the community, their website is great, would 10/10 recommend.

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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Lorren's avatar

Yes, interested, and I’m increasingly interested to see how other people participate/respond/improvise with the teachings/prompts

Plus side of Patreon is not having to learn how another app works

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Daniel's avatar

Id be interested in a dream sangha on the lower tier

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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Daniel's avatar

Are you still doing the monthly sessions here too?

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

yes. first weds. its its own thing, entry level, $15/mo, 3hr lecture each month plus archives etc.

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Daniel's avatar

Have you explored Circle or Disciple?

Podia is also something I’ve used as both a student with other teachers and as a provider.

Not sure if they meet your needs.

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

circle starts at about $100 a month, disciple is wayyy more. podia was an option but even then it's about $80/mo. i was definitely leaning towards podia but im not sure it's really worth it. thanks for the ideas though.

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Moon Bukás's avatar

I'd sign up

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Moon Bukás's avatar

Thank you. Unfortunately I have to work at 10am Wed PST

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

The sessions are recorded and if enough people want different live times it can happen.

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Ava's avatar

I'm interested too! I would like to avoid Patreon if possible, as it's been a problematic platform for me recently when trying to subscribe to Creators. I suspect it has take on an AI algorithm to manage it and its customer service.

I see below that Discord/Telegram/etc. aren't ideal for you, those were going to be my suggestions. Hoping someone else has a better idea!

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

currently there are no better ideas and platform paralysis is definitely an issue i have to manage or else nothing will get done.

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ClaeR's avatar

I’d sign up for low/middle tier.

Would find a way to adjust platform wise to what suits your needs best. Munch Munch Munch Munch. I’ve downsized to substack and a small handful of telegram channels.

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ClaeR's avatar

Subscribed and synced ~

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oiyu hera's avatar

i’m interested. thanks dare.

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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Heather's avatar

I'm interested in joining. Have no additional info to offer re: platforms

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it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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Marko Mišković's avatar

Looking forward to this... For me telegram + google docs worked well

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darius/dare carrasquillo's avatar

it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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jules's avatar

i would sign up. definitely curious about daoist dream practices

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it's live here: patreon.com/deathclown

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